CPU Fan Failure Can Be Caused By Dust
By Lisa HW
Getting CPU Fan Failure Message, Followed by Immediate Shut Down
Note: This may be something many other people already know, but because it's something I didn't know about when I got the "CPU Failure" message, following by the immediate shutting down of the machine, I assumed I needed a new CPU. I didn't, and that's why I thought I'd share the experience here.
My Compaq Presario, which has bordered on being completely silent in the few years since I've had it, has been making a little bit of noise over recent months. The increase in "clickety" sounds has been very gradual, so I haven't really noticed it (other than to know it had once been close to completely silent and no longer was). I suppose I was kind of thinking it was what happens when a PC is no longer brand new.
We've had lots of extremely humid weather in recent days. It's been so humid a couple of papers I have on my dining-room table actually felt soggy. The humidity and heat seemed to be at their peak when there was a power failure in the house. When I tried to get the computer going again that's when I first got the message, "CPU Fan Failure" (with an additional message along the lines that the PC would be shutting down immediately to prevent damage, and it should be serviced immediately).
Upon doing a little research, the first thing I learned was that I needed to figure out if the message was related to a fan at the back of the computer or a more challenging "cooling arrangement" that's apparently glued to a microchip and operates differently from a "basic, little, fan" at the back of the computer. Apparently, my machine has both types. The question was, "Which one failed?" I also learned that I needed to know if my machine even had a basic, little, fan (or whether it just uses the other kind).
Knowing the model number (SR5250NX) didn't help, because HP (which bought out Compaq a few years ago) technical information resources couldn't (apparently) tell me what this model has for cooling systems. It was a matter of needing to open the machine and look. I just thought it might be have nice if they knew that one model number has whatever it has for a cooling system, but they don't. My plan was, of course, to buy a fan (if I needed one) and either ask a friend/relative (who knows about these things better than I) to install it, or else bring the machine somewhere to have the work done. This wasn't my preference because if it was the basic fan, it appeared it, by itself, would cost between $30 and $40 (and some I'd run into were refurbished). Add what it would cost to "walk in the door" and then whatever else would be charged, and I wasn't thrilled at the surprise expense with which I'd potentially just been faced. (I have lots of those unexpected expenses as it is, as many people do.)
Maybe taking the side of the machine isn't much of a big deal for some people, but it is for me. I know nothing about the innards of a computer, and desktops are unwieldy for a lot of women (like me) to be moving out to a better location for taking the side off and seeing what's going on in there. Yes, I'm capable of recognizing a basic, little, fan at the back of the machine; but that's about it.
The machine first ran into problems Saturday. Sunday a software-designer/engineer friend offered to look at the machine to see which fan/cooling system had failed. When my friend took the side of the machine it was obvious there was lots of dust accumulation in there. He flicked the fan, and the machine almost immediately booted up. In case any is interested, it happens that my particular machine does have the basic fan at the back, as well as the other kind of cooling system. It became clear that the fan at the back of the machine blows out, while the other one blows downward. Based on what my friend said, that combination may contribute to the accumulation of dust on the back fan.
I'm guessing it may not help that my machine is at home, in a room not far from the kitchen; rather than in a "real" office. Between cooking in the kitchen, having window fans running (and bringing in stuff) about half the year, and the usual accumulation of dust; I don't think any of these things helped. It never occurred to me to get the machine checked for dust accumulation because for the first year, I was thinking it was a "new" machine. I guess the second year just flew, and soon it will be three years old. Live and learn (especially if your computer is not isolated in a "real" office, as opposed to being exposed to the things there are in the "regular" living area of a home.
It was quite a job for my friend to (kindly) clean it all out. He had brought a special cartridge used for cleaning in the inside of computers, so that helped. It wasn't nearly enough, though. In the end he needed to hand-brush the dust out of all the places it had settled. On the one hand, it probably wasn't absolutely essential that he clean it out so thoroughly. The fan had been blown and brushed off and was working. Still, who's going to close up the machine (after moving it to another room for working on it), knowing it's still full of dust.
So, my computer is now (mostly) dust-free, at least for now. There was no need to replace any fan of any kind. While the machine was open I wrote down the information we saw on it. It's IMPORTANT to emphasize that just because a model number may be the same as mine, it doesn't necessarily mean the fan will be the same. Still, I'm including the information I found in case it's of any use to you (should you find yourself with that "CPU Fan Failure" message on your own machine):
My model number is: SR5250NX. Here's what was inside the machine:
Fan Model: AUB 0812VH
12 Volt .41 Amp
Made by Delta Electronics/Made in China
The front of the fan has on it:
Asustek Computers Inc.
www.asus.com
Regardless of your computer's make or model number, you may find that having the following items on hand would be useful should you have the need to clean out dust:
Cartridges that clean blow the dust out by using compressed air. (You can learn more about them by looking online or asking where electronics products are sold.)
Brushes (such as unused paint brushes, such as the kind sold for children to use when painting with water or watercolors). (Very slim handle. Make sure the bristles don't look like they'll fall out easily, as with some cheaper brushes.)
Or, unused (but well made) make-up brushes with very slim handles.
Lint-free cloths or paper towels (for cleaning off the inside walls of the machine).
By the way: You can, if you must, bypass the error message by pressing F2 (according the HP information I found. Apparently, others bypass the message with F1, although not necessarily with the same kind of PC as mine). Obviously, this isn't recommended because your machine could be damaged if it runs without being adequately cooled. There are times when the error message may appear any number of reasons, and not necessarily related to the fan's not working. This is yet another reason to take the side of the machine and at least see if a) there's a back fan at all (some machines have more complex/advanced cooling systems that don't involve a back fan at all; although in the case of mine, there are, as I mentioned, both).
In any case, if it happens there's a back fan and it isn't working, that will be obvious and "more mysterious" causes for the message can be eliminated. Mine was working again, with the machine booting up (and staying on) with the flick of a finger (even before all that cleaning). Since finding part numbers isn't all that easy (apparently), if your machine has this kind of fan and you need to replace it, it's good to know what kind you have before ordering a new one.
In the case of my machine, HP does offer step-by-step instructions for replacing the fan. (I, personally, would still be uncomfortable attempting to do that - but maybe that's just me and the fact that I'm intimidated by just thinking about replacing anything in my PC.)
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Comments
Hi Lisa. Happy to see you had the foresight to investigate before being taken to the cleaners, so to speak.
Most desktop computers have a least 2 fans..one inside the power supply, and a CPU fan. Most video cards also have their own fan these days. An additional fan at the back of the case helps blow the hot air out.
No matter where you place your computer, it's bound to attract dust. I clean mine about every 4 months.
Nice article, btw.
Hello, hello, thank you.
timorous, it didn't feel like foresight when my friend was willing to look inside the machine. It felt more like panic and a wish not to spend "Big Bucks" unless it was really, really, necessary. LOL I think I may follow your lead of cleaning every once in awhile. Just today I discovered YET another surface that I missed when cleaning all that computer-innards dust off everything that it was blown onto. LOL
Thanks, too, for the additional information for me and others here.
Nice article. I have similar problem with one of my laptops an Acer. I live almost on the sea shore and specially during Monsoon rain (it rains more than 100 inches in just 3 months), I face this problem. Of course in Mumbai it's much easier, giving it to a hard-ware guy to repair is not so expensive. He comes home to pick up and give back after repair and he has even changed fan with a new one (he took some time to get the right one), all that coasted less than US$ 20. He told me the same thing to get it cleaned often because of dust gathering.
soumyasrajan, thanks for sharing here. $20 dollars would have sounded pretty good to me. I was looking at least (most likely more) $140, I think (before labor).
Another brilliant hub from you Lisa. I must admit I only started to use this computer regularly when I joined HP. I am the last person you would describe a computer genius. Therefore hubs such as this one are priceless. I am voting it up, giving it a useful and bookmarking it. Keep them coming Lisa. take care.
Eiddwen, thank you. One thing I like about my computer is that it pretty much takes care of itself when a problem occurs, or else if it doesn't, it may be a software thing that I've been using it long enough to be able to figure out. (Believe me, when I started using computers several years ago now, I knew NOTHING! Someone else had to show me what e.mail is! I'd been out of work for quite awhile,and a lot had happened technology-wise. :) ).
This dust situation was just a shock - I'm now kind of amazed that I never even thought to ask anyone if I should be cleaning out the machine (and I'm otherwise such a neat-freak... or so I've thought until now. LOL )
Lisa-- it's a wonder what a bottle of compressed air can do for a computer, I read this and knew you've just saved an old computer of mine, and yep, bottle of compressed air, and boom, back on track
Rebecca, great. Thanks. :) A couple of days ago I was in the grocery store and saw a can of compressed air sold where they sell the stationary and computer accessories. I guess I don't really look at that little end of the shelf when I'm in there, because I'm either buying food or cleaning stuff (where the wipes for electronics are). I don't know if the can of air is new there or not - but now I know how easy it is to find one. (Who knew! :) )
Thanks for much for this info. I tried the compressed and and like magic, problem fixed. I will now keep up with it.
Who would have thought to use a bottle of compressed air to rescue an ill computer? Very practicle and unique information. Impressive tip Lisa! Thanks.
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Hello, Lisa HW
Great hub, very well written
Thanks for sharing. :)
Rate up! Great information worth bookmarking, and I certainly will. I love all the other computer wellness links you provided.
Thanks for a nice hub.
Laptops, and especially cheap laptops, are very prone to dust causing overheating. Of course they are also more difficult to disassemble.
Two warnings about compressed air: you need to open up the machine. Trying to blow from outside is almost certainly going to make things worse.
If you happen to have a shop compressor, don't be tempted to use it unless you know it will not spit out oil with the air. You do not want to coat electronics with an oil mist!
You can monitor internal temperatures on some hardware. For example, I know exactly how hot various important parts of my MacBook are running thanks to a little program called iStat.
PCunix, thank you for adding this additional information for readers here.
Your comment about laptops kind of worries me, because I'd pretty much be scared-to-death to open the laptop, in view of my lack of knowledge about such stuff. I imagine this is written somewhere out there, but now I'm thinking how people might be able to use an article/Hub about ways to prevent unnecessary dust from building up in laptops. (I know some dust is going to happen, but I'm guessing some people do some things that may encourage accumulation sooner than it needs to happen.)
Opening a laptop can be tricky and again, that is especially apt to be true with cheaper models. All you need it THIS , but to get to that means taking of this other thing, and that means the keyboard comes out.., not for the faint of heart and the screws can be really, really easy to lose track of.
Thanks for sharing such a wonderful and useful topic with all of us really it is awesome and the hub is very clear regarding the CPU Fan problem.
Hello, hello, 19 months ago
Wow, that is some information and very helpful